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More about Dealing with Very Aggressive Creditors in Bankruptcy

Posted by Kevin on April 22, 2013 under Bankruptcy Blog | Be the First to Comment

Most creditors don’t challenge your write-off of their debts in bankruptcy. But if one does, the system is poised to resolve that challenge relatively quickly.

The last blog, and this one, are about what happens when a creditor raises one of the few available arguments to try to prevent its debt from being legally discharged.  As emphasized last time:

  • Most potentially dischargeable debts DO in fact get discharged. To avoid any particular debt from being discharged, the creditor has the burden of establishing that the debt arose out of a very specific sort of bad behavior by you, one that is on a list that is in Section 523 of the Bankruptcy Code.
  • Your creditors have a very firm deadline to raise such a challenge, or else lose the ability ever to do so.
  • The challenge is raised by filing a complaint . This starts an “adversary proceeding,” a lawsuit focused only on this question.

Avoid Losing by Default

After a creditor files a complaint, the most important thing to realize is that the creditor will automatically win if you and your attorney do not file a formal answer at the court within the stated deadline. So contact your attorney immediately if you receive a complaint.

Most Discharge Challenges Don’t Go to Trial

The adversary proceeding can go through all the steps of a regular lawsuit. After filing the answer, there can be “discovery”—the process of requesting and exchanging any pertinent information and documents, and holding depositions (questioning witnesses under oath). And there could be various kinds of motions, pre-trial hearings, and a full trial. But these kinds of adversary proceedings rarely go through all these step and get to trial, because the amount of money at issue usually does not justify the cost involved for either side to pursue it that far. So after both sides get a clear picture of the facts, there is usually a settlement. Or the debtor does some quick math, and decides that it would be cheaper to buy off a creditor than to spend the money on additional legal fees with the possibility that you could lose at trial and be forced to pay the creditor the full amount due (note that representation in an adversary proceeding is never included in the base fee).

But if there is enough at stake, or else if one or both sides are unreasonable and insist on getting a decision from the judge, the dispute does go to trial. These trials usually last a half-day, or a day, very seldom longer. At the end of trial the bankruptcy judge decides whether the debt is discharged or not. Extremely rarely, this decision can be appealed, in fact theoretically all the way up to the United States Supreme Court!

What’s So Quick and Efficient about All This?

Any litigation is very expensive, so you hope to avoid any discharge challenges. But bankruptcy court is a relatively fast and efficient forum for a number of reasons:

1) Because creditors have the opportunity to review your finances beforehand, much of the time they will not bother to raise challenges at all.

2) If a creditor does raise a challenge, the issues are narrow and so the fight is usually focused on just a few critical facts.

3) Adversary proceedings move along fairly quickly. Compared to most state court and regular federal court litigation which often takes a couple of years, these kinds of adversary proceedings tend to be resolved in a matter of few months.

4) Because bankruptcy judges deal with these kinds of challenges all the time, they are extremely familiar with these legal issues.  So they move these cases fast.

Having a creditor object to the discharge of a debt can significantly complicate a Chapter 7 or Chapter 13 bankruptcy case. But these disputes are usually settled relatively quickly. Help this happen by informing your attorney about any threats made by creditors before your bankruptcy is filed, and then working closely with your attorney if a creditor follows through on its threat by filing a complaint.

Dealing with Very Aggressive Creditors Who Say You Can’t Discharge Their Debts in Bankruptcy

Posted by Kevin on April 20, 2013 under Bankruptcy Blog | Be the First to Comment

Bankruptcy court is a relatively efficient place to determine whether or not you must pay a debt which the creditor says can’t be discharged.

One of the realities about filing a consumer bankruptcy case is that your case can get much more challenging if you have a very aggressive creditor. Most creditors take your bankruptcy filing in stride as a normal part of their business, figuring that you’re doing it for a sensible reason. But some creditors take it personally and react with more anger than good sense—often because they have some personal connection to you like an ex-spouse or former business partner. Or other more conventional creditors may honestly believe that they have grounds to prevent their debt from being discharged.

This blog, and the next one, are about what happens when there is such a creditor. The topic here is is not about creditors with rights to collateral, where the issues focus on what will happen to the collateral. It’s not about debts which will clearly not be discharged, like recent income taxes or child support obligations or most student loans. Rather this is about debts that would normally be discharged unless the creditor can prove that the debt arose of some bad behavior by you, usually involving some sort of fraud, theft, drunk driving, or such. Not just any bad behavior will do; it has to be one of a specific list that is in Section 523 of the Bankruptcy Code.

Creditors Have to Put Up or Shut Up

Before filing bankruptcy, you may be told by a creditor’s representative or collection agent that a debt can’t be discharged in bankruptcy or that they will fight you if you file bankruptcy. Most of the time they’re bluffing you. But for sure tell your attorney about the threat so that he or she can determine whether it has any merit. If it doesn’t, that will avoid unnecessary worry for you. In the unlikely event the threat does have merit, that will help your attorney prepare for a challenge by the creditor if it comes.

Even if a challenge has legal merit, a creditor may not pursue it for practical reasons, mostly to avoid putting out more money—in filing fees and attorney fees—to try to prove that you can’t discharge the debt, only to risk losing that battle and wasting its money. At least in theory the law has a “presumption” that your debts will be discharged, so the burden is on the creditor to show that a debt should not be.

And you don’t have to sit around wondering for long whether or not any creditor will raise a challenge. Except in very rare circumstances (such as forgetting to list the creditor in the bankruptcy documents), any creditor that has any objections to the discharge of its debt has only 60 days from your hearing with the trustee to formally file an objection or forever lose its opportunity to do so. Since that meeting (also called the “meeting of creditors” or “341 hearing”) usually happens about a month after your case is filed, this means that within about 3 months after filing you will know.

The “Adversary Proceeding”

The creditor may tell your attorney in advance about an intended challenge, usually in an effort to get you to settle the matter by agreeing to pay part or all of the debt. But much of the time the creditor just files a formal complaint at the bankruptcy court. This begins what is in effect a mini-law suit, called an adversary proceeding, focusing only on whether the creditor can prove the facts that the law requires for the debt to be excluded from discharge. This issue is usually NOT on whether you owe the debt in the first place—that’s usually assumed and admitted. Rather the issue would be whether, for example,  you incurred the debt by falsifying a credit application, by never intending to pay it through bounced checks, by coercing a relative to change their will on your behalf… behavior of this sort.

Please come back to the next blog in a couple days for the rest of the story about what happens in these adversary proceedings.

How Bankruptcy Can Be a Good Idea- Part III

Posted by Kevin on April 14, 2013 under Bankruptcy Blog | Be the First to Comment

Three more very practical ways that bankruptcy works to let you take control of your debts, even those that can’t be written off.


A few blogs ago I gave six reasons why it’s worth looking into bankruptcy even when you can’t discharge (write off) one or more of your debts. Today here are the final three of those reasons, each one paired with a concrete example illustrating it.

Reason #4: Taking control over the amount of the monthly payments.

The taxing authorities, support enforcement agencies, and student loan creditors have extraordinary power to take your money and your assets if you fall behind in paying them. Because of that tremendous leverage, you normally have no choice but to play by their rules about how much to pay them each month. Chapter 13 largely throws their rules out the window.

Let’s say you owe $15,000 to the IRS—including interest and penalties—from the 2010 and 2011 tax years, resulting from a business that failed. You’ve now got a steady job but one that gives you very little to pay the IRS after taking care of your very basic living expenses. The IRS is requiring you to pay that debt, plus ongoing interest and penalties, within 3 years. And it calculates the amount you must pay it monthly without any regard for your other debts, or for your actual living expenses. Even if you did not have unexpected expenses during those 3 years, paying the required amount would be extremely difficult. But if your vehicle needed a major repair or you had a medical problem, keeping up those payments would become absolutely impossible.  But the IRS gives you no choice.

In a Chapter 13 case, on the other hand, the repayment period would stretch out to as long as five years, which lowers the monthly payment amount. And instead of a rigid mandatory monthly payment going to the IRS, how it is paid in Chapter 13 is much more flexible. For example, if in your situation money was very tight now but would loosen up down the line—for example, after paying off a vehicle loan—you would likely be allowed to make very low or even no payments to the IRS at the beginning, as long as its debt was paid in full by the end. Also, you would be allowed to budget for vehicle maintenance and repairs, and medical costs, and other reasonable expenses, usually much more than the IRS would allow. And if you had unexpected vehicle, medical, or other necessary expenses beyond their budgeted amounts, Chapter 13 has a mechanism for adjusting the original payment schedule. Throughout all this, you’d be protected from the IRS.

Reason #5: Stopping the addition of interest, penalties, and other costs.

Under the above facts, if you were not in a Chapter 13 case, the IRS would be continuously adding interest and penalties. So that much less of your monthly payment goes to reduce the $15,000 owed, significantly increasing the amount you need to pay each month to take care of the whole debt in the required 3 years.

In Chapter 13, in contrast, unless the IRS has imposed a tax lien, no additional interest is added from the minute the case is filed. No additional penalties get added. So not only do you have more time to pay off the tax debt, and much more flexibility, you have also have significantly less to pay before you finish off that debt.

Reason #6: Focusing on paying off the debt that you can’t discharge by discharging those you can.

This may be obvious but can’t be overemphasized: often the most important and direct benefit of bankruptcy is its ability to clear away most of your debt burden so that you can put your financial energies into the one that remain.

Back to our example of the $15,000 IRS debt, let’s say the person also owes $20,000 in credit cards, $5,000 in medical bills, and a $6,000 deficiency balance on a repossessed vehicle. Discharging these other debts would both free up some of your money for the IRS and avoid the risk that those other creditors could jeopardize your payments to the IRS.   Entering into a mandatory monthly payment arrangement with the IRS when at any moment you could be hit with another creditor’s lawsuit and garnishment is a recipe for failure.

Instead, a Chapter 7 case would very likely discharge all of the credit card, medical and old vehicle loan debts. With then gone you would have a more sensible chance getting through an IRS payment arrangement.

In a Chapter 13 case, you may be required to pay a portion of the credit card, medical and vehicle debts, but in return you get the benefits of getting long-term protection from the IRS, a freeze on interest and penalties, and more flexible payments.

So whether Chapter 7 or Chapter 13 is better for you depends on the facts of your case. Either way, you would pay less or nothing to your other creditors so that you could take care of the IRS. Either way, you would much more likely succeed in becoming tax free and debt free, and would get there much quicker.

How Bankruptcy Can Be a Good Idea…-Part II

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The last blog gave 6 reasons why it’s worth looking into bankruptcy even if you know that you can’t discharge (write off) one or more of your most important debts. Today here are concrete examples how the first three of those could work for you.

The first two reasons we’ll cover together. First, sometime debts which you might think can’t be discharged actually can be, and second, some debts that can’t be discharged now may be able to be in the near future.

Let’s say you currently owe $10,000 in federal income tax for the 2008 tax year. You filed that tax return on October 15, 2009 after getting an extension.  The IRS assessed the tax and you’ve been making monthly payments to the IRS on a payment plan, but because of that you did not make adequate tax withholdings or quarterly estimated payments for 2011. You know that once you file your 2011 tax returns (by October 15, 2012, because you got an extension) you’re going to be in trouble because you will owe a lot for that year as well. You know the IRS will cancel the payment plan for 2008 because of your failure to keep current on your ongoing tax obligations. You’re pedaling as fast as you can, but October 15 is less than two months away and you don’t know what to do. You are quite certain that the $10,000 tax debt cannot be discharged in bankruptcy.

You’d be right about that… but only for the moment. Because under these facts that 2008 tax debt could very likely be discharged through either a Chapter 7 or 13 bankruptcy case filed AFTER October 15, 2012. (Whether you’d file a Chapter 7 or 13 would depend on other factors, including how big your 2011 and anticipated 2012 tax debts will be.) Instead of being in a seemingly impossible situation, you would avoid paying all or most of that $10,000—plus lots of additional interest and penalties that you would have been required to pay. Instead you would be more than $10,000 ahead on paying off the 2011 and 2012 taxes!

Now here’s an example where bankruptcy can permanently solve an aggressive collection problem.

Change the facts above to make that $10,000 debt one owed for the 2009 tax year instead of 2008. Since that tax return was also filed with an extension to October 15, 2010, that $10,000 would not be dischargeable until after October 15, 2013. But in this example you’ve already defaulted on your monthly payment agreement. So you are appropriately expecting the IRS to file a tax lien on all of your personal property and on your home, and to start levying on (garnishing) your financial accounts, and on your paycheck if you’re employed or on your customers/clients if you’re self-employed.

With all that the IRS can do to you, you can’t wait until October of next year to discharge that $10,000. But if you filed a Chapter 13 case now the IRS would not be able to take any of the above aggressive collection actions against you. You would have to pay the $10,000 (and any taxes owed for 2010 and 2011) but you would have as long as 5 years to do so. And most importantly, throughout that time you’d be protected from any future IRS collection action on any of those taxes, as long as you complied with the Chapter 13 rules.

As for the 2012 tax year, you would likely be given the opportunity to pay extra withholdings or estimated payments during the rest of this year, which you would be able to afford because of temporarily paying that much less  into your Chapter 13 plan.

So instead of being hopelessly behind and deathly scared about everything the IRS is about to do to you, within a few days you could be on a financially sensible path to being caught up with the IRS. And then within three to five years you’d be tax debt free, AND debt free.

Bankruptcy Can Solve Your Debt Problems Even If You Can’t Write Off Every Debt

Posted by Kevin on April 3, 2013 under Bankruptcy Blog | Be the First to Comment

You owe the IRS a substantial amount of money for income taxes.   You have heard that bankruptcy doesn’t discharge (legally write off) income tax debts.   So you’re not seriously considering bankruptcy much less consulting with a bankruptcy attorney.

You may or may not be right about whether or not that income tax debt can be discharged now.  However, you may be able to discharge the income tax debt in the future .  But you will not know for sure unless you get some advice.  Here are six reasons why you should not be your own lawyer, and should consult with an experienced bankruptcy attorney:

1. Some debts, which you think can’t be discharged, actually can. Certain income taxes can be discharged in either a Chapter 7 or Chapter 13 case.  For the most part, it depends on when the tax obligation was incurred.   And even though alimony is not dischargeable,  there are some payments to an ex-spouse which are not considered nondischargeable alimony under the Bankruptcy Code.  It’s certainly worth finding out whether the debt you assume can’t be discharged actually can be discharged.

2. Some debts that can’t be discharged now may be able to be in the future. Almost all income taxes can be discharged after a series of conditions have been met. So your attorney can put together for you a game plan coordinating these tax timing rules with all the rest of what is going on in your financial life.

3. Even if you can’t discharge a debt, bankruptcy can permanently solve an aggressive collection problem. In many situations your primary problem is the devastating way a debt is being collected. For example, you may want to pay an obligation for back child support but the state support enforcement agency is about to suspend your driver’s and/or occupational license. A Chapter 13 case will stop these threats to your livelihood, and protect you from them while you catch up on the back support.

4. You have more control over the amount of the monthly payments on debts that cannot be discharged. Debts which the law does not allow to be discharged in bankruptcy also tend to be ones that give the creditors a lot of leverage against you. Chapter 13 takes some of this leverage away from them by allowing you to pay what your budget allows, not what these creditors would otherwise like to carve out of you.

5. Bankruptcy can stop the adding of interest, penalties, and other costs, allowing you to pay off a debt much faster. Unpaid income taxes and certain other kinds of debts are so much more difficult to pay off because a part of each payment goes to the ongoing interest and penalties. Some tax penalties in particular can be huge. Most of these ongoing add-ons are stopped by a Chapter 13 filing, allowing you to become debt-free sooner.

6. Bankruptcy allows you to focus on paying off the debt(s) that you can’t discharge by discharging those you can. You may have a debt or two that can’t be discharged and a bunch of debts that can be. Even if bankruptcy can’t solve your entire debt problem directly, discharging most of your debts would likely make that problem much more manageable. Under Chapter 7, you would be able to pay off those surviving debts much faster, which is especially important if they are accruing interest or other fees. And under Chapter 13 you would have the benefit of a predictable payment program, one that focuses your financial energies on those nondischargeable debts while protecting your assets and income from them.

So don’t let the fact that you believe that you have debts that can’t be discharged in bankruptcy stop you from getting legal advice.  What you find out may surprise you.